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are especially vulnerable this time of year, this year in particular as the fiscal cliff beckons. for many of the unemployed, the cliff is a clear and present danger. unless congress and the president act before the times square ball drops, many on unemployment insurance will be left to fend for themselves. that's because federal extensions of those benefits, currently up to 47 additional weeks in some states would suddenly expire. that would make for an exceptionally unhappy holiday for an estimated two million unemployed americans. >> brown: we take a closer look now at the standoff and stakes involving unemployment benefits. judith conti is the federal advocacy coordinator for the national employment law project, a workers' rights group. and bill beech heads the center for data analysis at the heritage foundation, a conservative think tank. did welcome to both of you. >> thank you. >> pick up first judy conti on what we just heard, why is the amount of long-term unemployment so stubbornly high? >> what's happening now is we're starting to see job creation. we're starting to see less peo
is just a start. with the fiscal cliff looming the staff is sure to face some resistance on capitol hill. >>> he spoke at this year's democratic national convention as an independent, but now former republican florida governor charlie crist is a proud democrat. crist posted a twitter photo friday showing his registration papers tweeting that he's proud and honored to join the party in the home of president obama. crist ran for the u.s. senate as an independent in 2010, but was defeated by marco rubio. some are speculating this move is in preparation for another run for governor against rick scott in 2014. >>> the supreme court has decided to take up two major same-sex marriage cases. the first is the defense of marriage act. the 1996 law denies federal benefits to legally married same-sex couples. right now around 120,000 legally married same-sex couples in the u.s. the second is california's proposition 8. that made same-sex marriage illegal in the state. a decision on these cases is expected next year. >>> is this the end of gangnum style mania? korean pop star psy which is the most wa
cuts that have come to be known as the fiscal cliff and today republicans stood by their offer to close some tax loopholes and limit deductions and called on the for the give them a new plan that the congress could. president obama spent his day with the santana family of falls church and he says they're members of the middle class and they'll be hit hard if congress fails to extend their tax cuts. meantime virginia could be hit hard if those spending cuts end up taking place especially in places like fairfax county where federal contracting is king. >> if you go make the kind of cuts that some are suggesting happen, then you're really hurting a lot of the small buss
, that may be the most actions the fiscal cliff saw today. here's the scene on capitol hill here at noon. yep, people leaving, members of congress leaving washington, heading home on a wednesday afternoon. one man standing was the house speaker and he says, i'm not going anywhere. >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> but, of course, it takes two to tango. where does president obama stand? >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> he's absolutely right about that. but we heard earlier this evening the president and speaker boehner did speak late today on the phone. that's good news. but in this case, we think we need facetime. they need to sit down face to face, pound it out, face to face breeds trust. even the democrats think the president needs to do a little more in-person work on this. >> the president is not somebody who -- he's prioritizing spending evenings with his family instead of going down and having a bourbon on the rocks with some of the congressional folks. >>
more. going over the fiscal cliff could cost america jobs. >> we're only expanding 2% right now. it needs to be considerably higher to bring more people off unemployment. >> reporter: for the jobless, president obama is asking congress for millions more. and more on the president's plan which will pitch to governors today largely spares social security and medicare. >> tracie potts for us in washington, thank you. >>> now to the crisis in syria. new reports that the white house and its allies are weighing military options to secure syria's chemical and biological weapons. president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton both issued warnings to syria monday after intelligence picked up signs the assad regime might be making preparations of some kind with its large stockpile of chemical weapons. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons, there will be consequences and you will be held accountable.
do you think should be happening here to try and get a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff happening? >> i have no doubt people are working very hard to get a deal. i wish their discussions -- well, now we have the president re-elected and we have a new congress. i think it's right they get them to the business of sorting this out. i think america's got to think that what it needs to do is get growth in its economy as well. and it needs to get growth by trade and exporting. i think what we're missing at the moment is a global agreement whereby big powers try to rebuild confidence in the world. yes, have you to sort out the fiscal problems. yes, you also have to have growth because that's the key to employment and to prosperity to the future. there's a global deal waiting to be done with china, europe, india also involved in this and, of course, america itself, where we could build the confidence that is necessary to get higher levels of growth around the world. >> and finally, gordon brown, i couldn't let you go without asking the view of the single biggest news story to hit the planet in
to avoid the fiscal cliff happening? >> i have no doubt that people are working hard to get a deal. we have the president re-elected and have a new congress, think it's right they get down to the business of sorting this out. i think america's got to think that what it needs to do is get growth in its economy, as well. and it needs to get growth by trade and exporting. and i think what we're missing at the moment is a global agreement whereby the big powers try to work on the economy. you have to have fiscal problems and you also have to have growth. that's the key for the future. there's a global deal waiting to be done, with china, europe, india also involved in this, and of course, america itself, where we could build the confidence that's necessary to get high levels of growth around the world. >> finally, gordon brown, i couldn't let you go without asking your view of the single biggest news story to hit the planet in the last week. it is, of course, the royal baby. >> it's incredibly important that we give them the privacy because her health is a massive issue. but you can see that br
house and congress will steer the country away from that so called fiscal cliff, which now is just 24 days away. but it's probably a good idea for you and your family to be prepared just in case. earlier, i spoke with stephanie rule of bloomberg tv about what could happen if the deal is not reached. >> people talk about the cliff like it's this major event, which it is. but almost like a y2k. from a paycheck perspective, you will see less money in your paycheck if we do fall off the cliff. but as far as the economy goes, it's not really a cliff, one specific act. it's going to be more like a slope and we are going to see most likely an economic slowdown where jobs are going to slow down because we're not going to see companies expand, we're not going to be seeing them grow. and this economy that we've been hoping to see a recovery could really head in the other direction, but it's not something we're going to see january 2nd, 3rd, and 4th. it's really overthe long haul. >> people hear you say lower paychecks. what about the tax hike? >> it's a negative. people need to prepare, that co
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-- [inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard line on those making 250 and above. >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. [inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of the situation that our country faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion of debt on the books. every man, woman and child owing the american government $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. as a result, our members understand that we've got to solve the problem, and we will. >> the house is going to
if these tax extenders have to be dealt with by the end of the year and in the fiscal cliff negotiations, what are the options for congress right now? on december, what is it, 6 today? guest: to be honest, these are kind of an after thought at this point because often as i said just all of these are extended for a year or two at a time. they talk about trying to make the list shorter but if they have to, if it's like december 29 and they need to pass something, all they have to do is pass everything for a year and it won't cost so much. but get to this after they figure out the bigger question. host: but they can do it in one bill? they can say tax extenders and list the different -- guest: exactly. it will go in the big fiscal compromise and you won't a lot about it unless someone says, wait, they passed a reduction deal and they probably will. tax ex tenders were the in the tarp, the financial bailout. so they usually get snuck into these big billless. host: right now what's the status of these so-called tax extenders? guest: so the finance committee, the senate finance committee passed a bi
without other leaders and it could represent an important step toward avoiding the fiscal cliff. the last time the 39 and the speaker met was with other members of congress november 15. they talked wednesday last week but that was a conversation by telephone. now they have sat down face to face. this top level meeting is important in any negotiating process in washington, dc. the fact they met on a sunday underscores the urgency. the white house confirmed the talks were held to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff and lines of communication remain open. the white house beating is the same day republicans appeared to be moving closer to the president's position on raising taxes for the wealthy. a senator appeared on fox news sunday along with a democrat schumer. >> the growing group of thugs are realizing they don't have a lot of cards related to tax issues. people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you give the president the 2 percent increase he is talking about, the rate increase on the top 2 percent and suddenly the shift goes back to entitlements. >> if s
and the so-called cliff, fiscal cliff, he also wants to deal with raising the debt ceiling which caused so much controversy a year and a half ago. take a listen to the president today. >> if congress in any way suggests they are going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> now, republics may not want to include the debt ceiling extension lifting that ceiling in these negotiations because the ceiling doesn't need to be lifted for a couple more months. if they come back next year and deal with that part of this, they might have more leverage as we get closer and closer to that deadline to force the president into more spending cuts than he wants right now, harris. >> harris: well, editor all those americans wondering and watching rights now, 27 days, how close are we. we heard the speaker say he is waiting to hear back from the white house. i would think that would be in the form of a counter offer from
driving us to the fiscal cliff? chris and senior writer for the weekly standard, steven hayes the guests here tonight. we begin with the dictator trying to maintain command of the country using chemical weapons as a deterrent. fox news chief washington correspondent james rosen has the latest for us in this report. >> a regime helicopter captured in the skies in syria in a video unloads something, most likely, a defensive flair to detour antirebel runners, but that epitomizes the fear of which the serian people now live. rebel forces taking the flight to the assad regime inside the capital with a deadly explosion in the arab red crescent building outside the city. >> it's very clear the regime forces are being grounded down and that they are losing. >> in seeking to squash the uprising, he killed 40,000 people. president obama's top aids feel the fightg takes on a more gruesome character. >> we remain very concerned, very concern that as the opposition advances, i particular on damascus, that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. >> senior u.s. officials confir
to avoid a fiscal cliff. to your point, you recently said, even if we reach a deal, the economy is still at series risk of a recession. >> that is right. we are looking at and economy that is very weak. growth was very disappointed. less than 2% real gdp growth in 2012. we will be struggling to achieve that next year, even without hitting the economy with more fiscal bad news. if we go over the cliff, it is really a major downturn. uncertainty remains about what is coming next. put that all together and we could certainly be put on the edge of a recession. lori: that manufacturing number coming in the low 50s, singling contraction. is that the first signal that this economy really is in trouble? >> certainly not the first signal. household earnings down. real disposable personal income has not increased since may. we are really looking at an economy that is weak. ooly thing keeping keeping consumer spending going is that households have been prepared to cut back on their savings rate to such a low level that i do not think there is more room or that in 2013. lori: there are bright spots
problem. >> we've only got 25 days until the fiscal cliff. >> according to "new york times," house speaker john ba boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can negotiate a deal one on one, and no one is objecting. >>> the crisis in egypt remains volatile, with massive anti-government rallies planned today. >>> heartbreaking survival story for a woman stranded in the snow in the california sierra nevada mountains. >>> shoppers at a seattle macy's had to be hospitalized when an escalator they were riding malfunctioned. >> fire to the end zone. touchdown. >> broncos with their eighth straight win. >> all that -- >> three, two, one! >> my 50th birthday, she gives everybody a car and then she's all, thank you for coming to gayle's birthday! >> we're talking about oprah, right? >> no, of course not. >>> and all that matters. >> south carolina tea party says jim demint is resigning. >> leaving the senate a lot better than i found it. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. then again -- captioning funded by cbs en
. fiscal cliff, beyond the fiscal cliff. let me get to this steve. this is about including the debt ceiling. and what the president said about that in this negotiation today. >> we are not going to play that game next year. >> if congress in any way suggests they will tie negotiation to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again, part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year. i will not play that game. because we have to break that habit before it starts. >> bret: what about that? >> well, the president had as many red lines for iran as for house republicans. i think what kirsten said is absolutely remarkable. it is about the scalp. it's about the president having made a campaign argument for the better part of 2012. so that he could run a class warfare campaign. now having to make good on that with the base of his party. the u.s. economy be damned. the republicans offered to give so much and offering precisely what erskine bowles laid out as a compromise position in the proposal they made the other day. you
house campaign that is aimed at getting congress to support the president's plan for avoiding the fiscal cliff. >>> if you follow the pope spiritually, you can now do it virtually. and this is very cool. pope benedict xvi's twitter account went live in seven languages today and it's got thousands of followers just within minutes even though the pope hasn't sent out a tweet yet. we're told that is to happen next wednesday. it is a bit, weird, isn't it? you have a twitter account and you to wait a week and a half for the pope to tweet. the pope says he'll kick off the twitter account with a q & a session. >> whenever the vatican does something really big and important, they always do it in multiple languages which is why they're doing this twitter feed in english and german and arabic. what will happen on wednesday is he'll be answering some questions on twitter. one of the reasons they said he wanted to get involved with this social networking site was he wanted to connect with people in social media. and so what better way than to take a few questions, #askpo questions, #askpontifex. >>
sandy's cleanup in all states. the request comes in the midst of a tough fiscal cliff fight and house speaker john boehner says they will review the request by the president. new york and new jersey originally asked for a combined $79 billion in aide. the states' governors say they are grateful for any help. >>> the supreme court taking up the controversial issue of gay marriage. the high court agreed to hear two important cases, prop 8 out of california and doma out of new york. a federal court recently overturned prop 8 after the measure passed by voters. the court will decide if doma violates the fifth amendment of equal protection under the law that applies to same-section couples legally married in other states. >>> today is a very happy day for same-section couples in washington state. it is the first day they can marry under the new law, legalizing gay marriage. couples began lining up for licenses early thursday morning. some courthouses opened up at midnight for the ceremonies to take place. several local judges also donated their time to marry the couples. ceremonies are exp
the fiscal cliff despite knowing that deadline was looming, the president never presented a plan until this week and the reception on capitol hill was, to say the least, chilly. senator mcconnell even laughed at the proposal when it was presented to him. joining me now, florida congressman allen west. colonel, thanks so much for being here. >> thanks, thanks for having me, dana. [applause]. >> what was your reaction when you finally saw what the president was putting on the table? >> well, i was in complete shock because it really has nothing to do with reality. when you look at the president's proposal to raise 1.6 trillion in new taxes, he wants 50 billion more in stimulus spending, he continues to want to extend the 99 weeks of unemployment benefits which will be another 30 billion per year and also, the other thing that was very troubling was that the president wants his own control of raising the debt ceiling. so, i don't think we have a president that is serious about getting our debt under control and getting our deficit, which the federal government spending under control, espe
officials would behave like in these fiscal cliff discussions, 28% said responsible adults. 67% said spoiled children. spoiled children. low ethical standards. if ever there was a time for elected officials to step up and prove they don't deserve that reputation, well, it would be now. house republicans today did offer a counter proposal on the fiscal cliff. their plan, $2.2 trillion deficit savings over the next decade, but it does not include higher tax rates for the wealthy. the house speaker john boehner calls it a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house. guess what? the white house released a statement tonight saying the plan is nothing new, that it lowers rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill. so to borrow a phrase, we're nowhere. period. david walker is president and ceo of comeback america initiative. he's made it his mission to promote fiscal responsibility. he joins us along with cnn political analyst, david gergen. the house republicans put forward their counter proposal. speaker boehner says it's credible and the white house
his plan to avert the fiscal cliff. at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up. >> woodruff: the president phoned house speaker john boehner yesterday, their first direct talk in almost a week. but today white house spokesman jay carney wouldn't share details of the call. >> we believe it's in the interest of achieving an agreement not to do that. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said yesterday the white house was absolutely willing to go over the cliff if republicans held firm in their opposition to raising rates on the wealthy. but it was the administration's other demand-- to give the president authority over the nation's debt ce
, why don't republicans in congress realize that when we voted for you we voted for your tax plan. that's one person. another writes in, what are you willing to compromise with the gop to get this fiscal cliff stuff done? i think president obama preparing to answer some tough questions from voters. over the weekend house speaker john boehner said these negotiations are nowhere. jay carney disagrees with that assessment. now phone calls at this point between president obama and congressional leaders, but the white house says the talks will be ongoing over the next several days, tamron. >> thank you. the president's q and a on twitter comes days after republicans flat-out rejected his opening bid in negotiations. house speaker john boehner appeared on one sunday morning talk show to see the president's proposal was not in his opinion a proposal at all. >> i was flabbergasted and said, you can't be serious. i just have never seen anything like it. we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> trea
to the edge of the fiscal cliff, and if the president doesn't like the republican's plan he has an obligation to send them one that can pass both houses of congress as quickly as possible. what is the middle ground here? >> well, they are nowhere near the middle ground. a lot of posturing going on. i think you'll see that for at least another week or two. the sticking point is, it's tax rates, and speaker john boehner was asked a question of whether he could be flexible on that. he really didn't indicate he was going to do that. democrats say fresh off their election win he must do that. maybe it's not 250,000, maybe it's higher where they protect sphaupl businesses between 250,000 or 750,000 and a million. there has to be some type of compromise. if republicans are going to go for tax rate increases they'll have to get significant returns as far as the entitlement reforms. that is the rub right there. >> reporter: let's talk a little bit more about entitlement reforms. as it stands right now the president's plan calls for 1.6 trillion in tax increases and roughly doubles what was previously
, the house and the white house, we hope that negotiations continue over the fiscal cliff. i want to ask you about the idea being discussed that raising the debt ceiling could be something that would be taken out of congress's purview andessential, for the president alone to make that decision, what do you make of that? >> insofar as we for talking about legislation, politically that, idea has to be deads on arrival. i don't know why congress would part with this, given to congress. this is an unwise proposal and not one that i see getting any traction. >> do you think that it is a broader, sort of look at different moves we have seen by this administration, to essentially go around congress, whether it comes to regulations or treaties or things that, in some ways have limited or no congressional intercention -- intervention, big policy decisions that impact americans as a whole. >> if it's an instance of the president's go-it-alone policy without congressional authorization, constitutionally, he is on the weakest possible ground. there is nothings in the constitution that can be read to the
and congress can't make a deal on the so-called fiscal cliff. a source of great concern for so many people, everyone's taxes will go up, will go up if there's no deal. let's go live to our white house correspondent dan lothian. he's on the scene for us over at the white house. how did it go, dan? >> reporter: well, wolf, we've seen the president do this before in the past whenever he's locked in negotiations with lawmakers. he heads out on the road, either goes to a backyard or sits down around a dinner table to put pressure on congress. that's what he did today when he went to falls church sitting down with the santana family. their parents who also are employed live in the household with them. so if taxes do go up on middle class americans, the overall hit on that household will be $4,000. so they're very concerned, but they were quite happy. they said it isn't every day that the president comes by and hangs out at your house. the message the president was trying to drive home today was aimed directly at congress and using this backdrop to tell a personal story. >> for them to be burdene
congress and the president have agreed on a huge deficit reduction package. it's called the fiscal cliff. so, you know, in my darker moments, i think we're going over it, and what if we went over it and the world didn't end? that would be kind of interesting. we'd take a big bite out of the deficit and everybody's taxes would go up, but i think the sun would come up tomorrow. >> huh. >> we may find out. >> okay, little orphan annie. >> so, gene, do you think right now that's you advise the president to do if the republicans don't come forward with more specifics? >> if i'm advising the president right now i'm advising him to wait a while. and that maybe when we get closer to the date, the calendar will concentrate the minds of many people in washington and a conversation will be more fruitful. >> all right. >> okay. eugene robinson, thank you. >>> still ahead, the former british prime minister tony blair joins us next. >>> and next, the "national journal's" ron fournier tells us his touching cover story next. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. americans are always ready t
the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. no prospect or agreement that doesn't involve those rates going on on the top 2%. remember, only 2%. >> reporter: that danger? not enough to keep congress in session. it's all right quit for the week. most lawmakers assume correctly there are bit players until there's a deal. that looks more complicated until mr. obama demanded republicans raise the debt ceiling this month without any spending cut strings attached. >> if congress in any way suggests they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. because we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: the president sees the fiscal cliff showdown as an opportunity to break that linkage for good. republicans say they will not increase the debt ceiling now $16 trillion and due to expire in february without more deficit reduction. >> history shows the only major deficit cutting deals we ever do around here, ever, comes after debates over the debt ceiling. it may be a good id
on the fiscal cliff. what is going on, rich edson? "imus in the morning" rich: house republicans will host the events with small business leaders in their districts and highlight what republicans say will be the economic damage small-business from raising income-tax rates on families earning $250,000 a year. president obama is leaving washington too though he is only heading across the potomac river, going to suburban virginia to speak to a middle-class family and he will press congress to protect those making less than $250,000 a year from tax increases by raising rates on those making more. in washington it is the same fight. >> president obama, democrats in congress have ever been ambiguous, provide economic security for 90% of american families and 97% of small businesses asking the wealthiest 2% to contribute just a little more to stop this runaway debt. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday he is getting as much taxpayer money as he can first by raising taxes on small business that he believes are making too much money and then on everybody else.
the house and the senate. that's where we are right now on the fiscal cliff. december 5th is it? there it is on the calendar. quick break more of what eric cantor said just moments ago. martha: during his 42 years in congress brooks is best known for voting to significantly cut government spending and to pass several historic laws including the civil rights act of 1964. what a life. jack brooks, dead at 89. bill: 25 minutes past the hour. there could soon be a major shortage of primary care doctors. the journal of the medical american association says 22% of internal medicine residents are planning to become internal medicine doctors. what does this mean to you? marc siegl joins us now with the latest on this. doctor, nice to see you. >> good to see you. bill: what does it mean. >> i want to explain to our views out there exactly what an internal medicine doctor is. we always talk about primary care. primary care is a pediatrician, obstetrician, gynecologist for women's health, family practitioner or a general internist, which is what i am. someone who does the internal organs o
of why we are here, none of you who claim to be here. we are here debating a fiscal cliff. we're here debating direction of america, we were going to go financially. very responsible ability as members of congress. we are the stewards of public funding. it's rightfully have this hearing again and i vitiated. in december when i came, at least a couple issues. we want to invest in infrastructure. one america to move quickly in the best ways possible. what you want from you also need a plan for her. if the networks, a planned test it, it's an audited in a plan that has a review. i happen to come from california. the happiness in the area and many of you talk about. it's part of where it began. i have ruled out of viability, cost and with them and come in this will ever that is why i joined the chairman, mr. denham, mr. miller at the gao, asking for an audit and review of the business plan in california. a look forward to hearing testimony later through corporatists completed. today it has been billions of dollars. as concerns about the business plan itself an equally concerning to me jus
-held american belief to lower -- that the lower government spending will improve the economy. joy so the fiscal cliff we are zeroing down about three weeks now to go. january 1st. do people believe a middle class tax cut deal is likely dism -- is likely? >> if nothing happens and the congress and the president don't reach a deal, a little spending will actually grow slower than it was planned to. and middle class taxes will go up. six out of 10 people say if a deal is reached, middle class taxes will go up anyhow and they don't expect to see spending cuts. there is a lot of skepticism, and even if there is a tax hike of any kind in this people don't think it will reduce the deficit. they think it will be spent on new programs. >> the consumer confidence survey out of michigan just came out. but you have your own consumer confidence. talk to us about that. >> we measure consumer confidence every day. right now the confidence levels are about as high as they have been in the last four years. a little higher than we saw earlier in the year this. is a big reason president obama was re-elected. and
of negotiations over what is called the fiscal cliff. also, don't forget to explore the history and literary culture of new york capital city of albany this weekend. book tv is on c-span2 and american history to be on c-span three. >> coming up at 7:00 c-span will be lot of discussion unskilled immigrants. virginia senator mark warner is sponsoring a bill to allow more highly skilled veterans and to the u.s. >> we have had these this the five explosions of knowledge in madison, but we have not coordinated care. all the services that we have end up having some any cracks that the cracks are as harmful as the diseases that we are treating. we have to step back and ask, you know, are we hurting people overall? and income on a global level where we doing some times? and, of course, now we have to these reports saying 30 percent of everything we do may not be necessary in after. we will be step back, 30 percent of all the medications we prescribe, the tests we order, the procedures. this is something, i think, which is for the first time really being called out as a problem. >> dysfunction in the
the umbrella of the terminology, fiscal cliff -- when we confront those difficult challenges, we have to ask ourselves a couple of basic questions. one of the basic questions we must ask is, what will be the result and will be the impact as it relates to middle income families? what will happen to them in the midst of all these tough issues we have to work out? we know there is broad agreement that going over the so-called fiscal cliff would jeopardize the economic recovery. it would do that by increasing taxes on families, halting employment growth, driving unemployment up instead of down, triggering a deep cuts to programs that families across the country count on. the job before the united states congress is to reach an agreement that builds on the economic progress that we are making, and puts us on a path to fiscal stability. we need to cut more spending, and generate more revenue. we need to do it in a smart way that keeps our economy growing. earlier this year, congress extended the payroll tax cut through 2012. the two percentage point payroll tax cut has played an important role to
's the headline. we know that -- we've been talking about the fiscal cliff, in nearly a month, we'll get over it, but really it's nine days, because everybody is supposed to break in just nine days. do you think everybody in congress fully understands just how frustrated and annoyed the american public is on this, seeing everybody go off, you know, to their home states for the weekend while this looms for the rest of us? >> well, certainly when i was home in oregon, i heard about it from everyone and every meeting. there is an expectation that we come together with these big national issues and address them. right now, what we have is a very unspecified proposal from the republicans, just basically saying we'll find revenues somewhere, we'll find -- cut programs somewhere. meanwhile, we'll be very specific about cutting medicare and social security. that's an extremely unacceptable response to the president's initial proposal and quite frankly, it's not acceptable that this game of chicken continue right on down the road. the needs will be very specific in negotiations, if they need to keep them
to hear well, maybe we can survive the fiscal cliff for a little while. what's going on? >> no, i don't think wall street is saying we can survive fiscal cliff. they're saying i'm not sure we're going over the fiscal cliff. right after the election wall street dropped 5% when everybody suddenly focused on the fiscal cliff and realized that this was a problem. but since then it's kind of bumped along at this sort of level. i don't think wall street is at all sanguine about the idea that if we went over the fiscal cliff, life would go on as we know it and everything would be fine. >> one of the things that was really interesting to me to bear out that point is ken conrad yesterday who's been so down, i mean, he's leaving the senate. he's done this for seven years. they can't produce deals. and yesterday when i interviewed him, joe, he said i think we're going to make this. i think the boehner offer had significant indicators that something here is going on, and they're going to come together. >> also, kent conrad, a guy -- i've loved him for a long time, deficit hawk. they haven't allow
what was going on. so for the fiscal cliff negotiations so far it really is serious stuff because the last thing we can afford right now is another 2008 debacle where people lose their shirt because the federal government -- the politicians here members of congress can't get their act together. but at any rate, you had one plan on the table. the president's plan. republicans saying the president -- there are too many questions and there's not enough specificity and -- baloney. president put out a plan about a year ago. it is in print. it is online. the president has a very specific plan. the republicans who didn't put anything on the table who had not countered with anything concrete at all. in fact, yesterday at our briefing, before boehner released his counter plan, jay carney said again that all you hear from the republicans are vague promises. >> you're making vague promises about achieving revenue through capping deductions or closing loopholes simply doesn't add up to a serious proposal. >> bill: so then y
planning his next move after confronting a fiscal cliff. "the los angeles times" says the administration will begin an all-out drive for major immigration reform next year but the white house deciding whether to send legislation to congress or let lawmakers take the lead. more to come. >>> members of congress are stepping in to help new yorkers clean up from hurricane sandy. politicians from as far away as georgia travel to staten island to help local congressman michael grimm help his residents. hurricane sandy struck more than a month ago. and during the height of the gift-giving season a new website is outlining the weirdest gifts president obama has gotten. on the list, 50 pairs of boxer briefs from david beckham's line, a donkey from a cluster bomb -- colombian town. but the strangest thing? insurance against crocodile attacks. it came from an australian official. >>> still to come, the supreme court ready to weigh in on same-sex marriage. what a decision could do to politics surrounding this hot-button issue. the truth about mascara is... it clumps. introducing a revolutionary new
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